Jasper is dying

ZEKE · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 436

my amieva Jasper is doing terrible. the last month he has been slowly getting worse now he is really bad. he never opens his eyes and hardly ever holds his head up. he just lays on the platform under his light. when i misted him a few hours ago he ran and hid. i just found him by his water bowl and he was bleeding from his eye Crying or Very sad

i dont know what to do. i thought of taking him to let the vet put him to sleep but i dont have the money for that. and i couldnt do anything like that myself. i dont want him to suffer tho. can anyone help me please!

in memory of Jasper the Tiger Ameiva (Ameiva Undulata)
bought 08/31/2007
passed --/--/----

his very first pic.

taken 12/07/2007

Amy · Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 21

Sorry to hear that. I used to use 'cold' to slow reps down and put them to sleep when needed but have since seen this is also painful?? I don't really know but thoughts are with ya.

ZEKE · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 436

thanks.

ZEKE · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 436

i think i may freeze him today. i read before that when they are sick like this that putting them in a freezer is a humane way of putting them to sleep.

he just pooped and i think some of his intestine came out with his poop and there was alot of blood. and he still has something hanging out of his vent that leaves a line of blood when he walks across the paper towels.

i dont know what to do Crying or Very sad

i dont want him to suffer but freezing him just seems mean. Crying or Very sad

**Raven** · Site Admin Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 217

I'm so sorry to here this, Zeke Sad

I'm not sure about freezing, though, as I have heard that this is not necessarily the best way. It slows down the system of herps and they remain aware, is what I've heard. I also wouldn't want Jasper to be prolonged in his condition.

"Freezing has been used as a humane method to kill small reptiles under one pound in weight. Although low temperatures do result in a state of torpor, the formation of ice crystals in the tissue is quite painful. Freezing should only be done to anesthetized animals." http://www.anapsid.org/euth.html

http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptile-health/euthanize-herp.aspx?cm_sp=InternalClicks-_-RelatedArticles-_-reptile-health/euthanize-herp

http://books.google.com/books?id=ySXMSBMebXcC&pg=PA451&lpg=PA451&dq=euthanizing+reptiles&source=web&ots=XG1XLXHuOm&sig=dhj-X19aFySvFD49BbxC3FEqJR8

I will say a prayer for Jasper and you.

sadly,
Raven

ZEKE · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 436

=0 i already put him in the freezer like 20 min ago. should i take him out! i dont want it to be painfull. now i feel even worse :'( i was told freezing would be painless and was a good way to do it.

thanks for the prayers.

**Raven** · Site Admin Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 217

I don't know if you should take him out. Is there a herp person you could call in your area? I'm just not any type of an expert. Do you have a herp vet that would at least answer a phone question?

Just some thoughts along with my prayers,
Raven

ZEKE · Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 436

yeah i do have a herp vet in the area. i didnt even think to call and ask him what to do. but now it is probably too late to take him out and do anything. its been over an hour.

another person i talked to before i put him in said that this is how he did his lizards that were extremely sick.

thanks,
~ZEKE~