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Raven
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Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:50 am    Post subject: Lions Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I have a special interest in lions, tigers and ligers. Does anyone have any photos or stories to share?

thanks,
Raven
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Raven
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Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a photo of one of the lionesses from the MGM grand in Vegas.

enjoy,
Raven
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timbalionguy



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a couple of pictures of my lion friend Kenya. You may recognize one of these as the aource of my avatar.

Kenya #1
Kenya #2

Here's a couple pictures of my beloved friend Hobbs the liger. Hobbs died in February Sad

Hobbs #1
Hobbs #2
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ZEKE



Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 436

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice looking big cats you have there. Kenya looks very content in those pics.

poor Hobbs Sad he was a good looking cat. i didnt even know a liger was real.


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Kastrophee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 48
Location: CA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would you reccomend? A male or female lion if you want to be able to handle them when they are full grown?

(Not really wanting a lion, just curious)
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timbalionguy



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hobbs was a very special cat. Not long after I started working with him, he 'adopted' me. We were best friends after that, up to his very last breath. I still cry for him every day.

As far as which sex lion is easier to work with, it is definitely the lionesses, according to most trainers. The males tend to be lazy, stubborn, and will 'test' your authority. That said, there have been some very exceptional male lions, that were incredibly laid back and easy to work with. Marjan and Josef come to mind as among these exceptional lions.
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Kastrophee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 48
Location: CA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you tell me a bit about the lioness personality?
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timbalionguy



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Lioness personality Reply with quote

Kastrophee wrote:
Could you tell me a bit about the lioness personality?


Disclaimer: I do not train cats! These are my opinions, based on what I have read or observed.

Lionesses are an interesting bunch. The very few that have sucessfully kept lions 'in the house' have kept lionesses. One I know in particular has a lioness thta sleeps with him at night. She is fun to sleep with, according to him. If he rolls over, or moves, he gets a 'lion hug'!

In general, lionesses are a bit more wary than the males. They are used to having to work to get a good bit of a kill, or fighting with pride members over a good bit. Therefore, they can be fiesty and posessive. At the ame time, I have seen even these fiesty cats also be very 'sweet'.

A lot of trainers prefer tigers. Even though they are 'cattier', they seem to train better. Lions in general, according to most trainers, are harder to work with, even though they are easier to bond with (my opinion) than tigers. In the case of any big cats, you have to do some 'picking and choosing'. Some cats will sleep with their heads in your lap. Others will kill you if they could when you come close. (The vast majority are somewhere in the middle) It also helps to hand-raise the cat. If you are 'mommy' or 'daddy' to the cub, you stand a much better chance of having a cat you can work with.

When you really get down to it though, the big cats 'train' you! And if you take their 'training' to heed, you end up being a better person!
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Cynthia



Joined: 21 Dec 2007
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prior to volunteering at a wild animal retirement sanctuary, the proprietors owned a lioness that their teenage daughter slept with, they had many photos, one of which lioness was a footstool while the owner read her books--this cat had quite a reputation as they would take it all over town with them and without incident--the lioness died at the age of 22--also, this sanctuary had connections with Born Free Foundation and took lion cub up to NYC for promotion involving George Adamson--wonder when this organization went anti-ownership? Knew a young fella who raised a lion from a cub, they had a wonderful relationship, he would groom and bathe him and teach him tricks--DMX (rapper) used this lion for cover for music CD--but then he had to move this lion to a sanctuary and I believe the lion was 2 when he challenged him--unfortunately, the owner was too inexperienced and relinquished ownership to this sanctuary where this magnificent lion died a few years later from a ?rattlesnake bite?--quite suspicious!
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timbalionguy



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a restaurant here in Reno, called 'The Christmas Tree'. It was in a beautiful mountain location. (It is now a private banquet center). The owners had a beautiful male lion, who would sit in the lobby and greet the guests as they arrived. Even today, there is a picture of the lion 'doing his duty' in the lobby. This lion was reportedly quite tame and would even let children pet it. (Not something i would recommend!)
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Sylvias



Joined: 05 Mar 2008
Posts: 32

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does one even come to own a lion? I wasn't aware it was legal without working for a zoo or wildlife service...
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Cynthia



Joined: 21 Dec 2007
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are Florida resident, you now can only get a permit for a lion or any Class I Felidae if you are a breeder or exhibitor. You must have 1,000 hours of documented experience and 2 letters signed by those whom you worked for to get the experience. You can obtain an application for a permit from the Fish & Wildlife Commission. If you meet the qualifications, your facililty and caging must be complete and inspected before a permit is granted. In this crazy world of ours, I am not so sure Class I permits are even granted now for any reason here in Florida.
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