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ZEKE
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 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: i cant decide lol |
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here are the animals i am thinking of getting now that jasper died and i am allowed to get another pet in february for my birthday.
a water dragon
a cockatiel
a sugar glider
some crested geckos
i cant decide what to get! my mom hasnt said yes yet to the sugar gliders or the cockatiel because she doesnt like rodents or birds. but i am going to try to convince her.
any opinions on what will make the best pet would be fantastic! i want somethin that i can take out of the cage often and let it roam around and enjoy it. what out of these will do that?
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Naia
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well you can definitelly scratch sugar gliders. They are extremely cute, but sleep through the day and are fast and bitey. The are nocturnal animals.
If I was you I'd rather get a bird that is not so noisy. Have you looked in to those parrotlets? Trust me your mom will not like a loud bird like cockatiel.
Crested geckos are very cute - also very nocturnal. Shouldn't be handled much, it stresses them out. The are more to just watch, than play with.
Water dragon will at least be up through the day. Not much of a "play with animal", but at least it is not hidden all day like crasted will be.
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Justin
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actually cresteds can become relativly "playful" with handling. It is important that you dont try and handle neonats from birth to about two weeks. Subadult and adult cresteds will explore and remain relativly calm when being handled.
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ZEKE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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my dad already said no to any kind of bird. and i want somethin bigger than a gecko.
i have a friend with a sugar glider. she said when she comes home from school she takes him out and he plays for about an hour before he goes back to sleep. then when it starts getting darker he comes out and plays untill she goes to sleep. she didnt say anything about them being bitey at all. wiht some training you can teach them not to try and run from you too.
i am leaning toward a waterdragon because i think that will be the best for me. it will be up all day and not make alot of noise at night. and i have heard they can be tamed and let you take them out and hold them and stuff. my mom is still deciding if she wants a lizard that big tho. right now our bearded dragon is the biggest lizard we have ever had and she doesnt really want anything bigger.
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Naia
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Justin, crested geckos are pretty calm and sweet geckos. Too much handling stresses them out. They are nocturnal animals, if they are constantly disturbed through the day, they will not die right away. It will shorten their lifespan. I don't look at animals as toys. If I know the animal doesn't enjoy me handling it, I keep it to minimum.
Zeke, not every sugarglider is the same. Some are nicer than others. And yes they will eventually stop biting if they get used to you. Hour a day will not hurt them. As long as they are not constantly disturbed through the day, some handling is fine. You kind of have to read your animal.
The water dragons will get used to handling to the point that they will tolerate it. They will never look forward to it. The less they are handled the better for them.
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TamanduaGirl
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Sugar gliders are SOCIAL animals. It is cruel to keep just one unless you can be up all night to play with it. A good breeder wont ever sell just one unless you already have one.
It kind of sounds like nothing on your list is right for you. What about a bunny? While they are social they often fight if put with other bunnies so not a worry to ave by it's self if you spend time with it and they are day time animals. Mine is up and down all day and night so a bunny would be ready for you when ever. Mine will walk up to any one for a pet, used to be my store greeter. He will sit with you for hours sometimes long as you pet his head  He even begs the other pets to groom him but except for Kat they never do.
Some people have taught theirs bunny agility so you can play interactive with them too.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Naia wrote: |
| Justin, crested geckos are pretty calm and sweet geckos. Too much handling stresses them out. They are nocturnal animals, if they are constantly disturbed through the day, they will not die right away. It will shorten their lifespan. I don't look at animals as toys. If I know the animal doesn't enjoy me handling it, I keep it to minimum. |
I don't really know anything about herps except the bare minimum. Enough to call them herps lol. But I agree with the sentiment above. I think it's a major factor in Silky anteaters not surviving captivity and in the rare case they do their lives are still cut very short. People think they are mellow and sweet so handle them. They just internalize their stress because they are tinny and can't fight back. Saw a recent vid of one being handled and it was mostly limp in a simi coma like state from the stress of being handled. No one had a clue just thought it was so cute. Just because an animal doesn't bite or claw doesn't always mean it's not stressed. You can teach an animal that squirming and biting wont let it get free so it may stop fighting you but that doesn't mean it still isn't stressed by it.
That's why the old notion of holding a feral or wild animal till it stops struggling may work but is not advised. It teaches it fighting is futile but it does not teach them you are a friend. You are still hurting it because it's scared and you are forcing it to stay. Slow and steady is always better. And yes some species will never welcome that kind of contact and you simply need to respect that.
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